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ii8510C Service Quick Reference Guide
Typeface Conventions
Italics
• Used to emphasize important information:
Use this software only with the Agilent Technologies xxxxxX system.
• Used for the title of a publication:
Refer to the Agilent Technologies xxxxxX System-Level User's Guide.
• Used to indicate a variable:
Type LOAD BIN filename.
Instrument Display
• Used to show on-screen prompts and messages that you will see on the display of an
instrument:
The Agilent Technologies xxxxxX will display the message CAL1 SAVED.
Keycap
• Used for labeled keys on the front panel of an instrument or on a
computer key b o ar d :
Press
[Softkey]
Return.
• Used for simulated keys that appear on an instrument display:
Press
[Prior Menu].
User Entry
• Used to indicate text that you will enter using the computer keyboard; text shown in
this typeface must be typed exactly as printed:
Type LOAD PARMFILE
• Used for examples of programming code:
#endif//ifndef NO_CLASS
Path name
• Used for a subdirectory name or file path:
Edit the file usr/local/bin/sample.txt
Computer Display
• Used to show messages, prompts, and window labels that appear on a computer
monitor:
The
Edit Parameters window will appear on the screen.
• Used for menus, lists , di alog boxes , and button boxe s on a computer monit or fr om which
you make selections using the mouse or keyboard:
Double-click
EXIT to quit the program.
8510C Service Quick Reference Guide iii
Contacting Agilent
This information supersedes all prior HP contact information.
Rev. C.06.60 85101-80132 CRT Only
Rev. C.07.XX 85101-80116 CRT Only
Rev. C.08.XX 85101-80116 LCD Only
85101
DISPLAY/
Reference extensions A and B are
used to phase balance a sweeper to
make an uncalibrated measurement.
At the port use 08512-20019 short.
With a cable(s) use 08514-20013 long.
If in doubt, always use the short links.
PROCESSOR
(ADDRESS 16)
IF DISPLAY INTERCONNECT
85102
IF DETECTOR
(ADDRESS 16)
83621A & 51A or others need
16 Aug 91 or later to work with
performance verification or else
unable to match frequency
points messages.
851X A/B
TEST SET
(ADDRESS 20)
X = 1-7
Firmware Rev. March 8, 1991
for complete compatibility
(If not, you may lose quick step)
8360 SERIES
8516A is compatible with 8510B
Rev. 4.0 or higher and with
8340/41/A/B with Rev. May 11, 88
or later. If not use Upgrage Kit 11875A
for 8340/41/A/B with serial numbers
2513 and above.
Use Upgrade Kit 08340-60334 for
serial numbers 2504A and below.
8517B Opt. 007 will display spikes if
the amplifiers are overdriven from the
RF Source. Reduce RF power to
0 dBm to increase dynamic range,
You may need to raise the power
> than 0 dBm. The factory preset
puts it at +10 dBm.
NOTE:
-20 dBm will cause "NO IF FOUND".
RF SOURCE
(ADDRESS 19)
With 8510B must
have Rev. 4.0 or
Higher to work
properly with
8360 Sources.
8340
SOURCE
*
(ADDRESS 19)
SWEEP IN 0-10V
To 85102
SWEEP OUTPUT
10MHz REF IN
10MHz
OUTPUT
JUMPER
SOURCE CONTROL
GPIB SYSTEM BUS
Exceptions andNo tes:
STOP SWEEP
To 85102
1. A 9000 series 200 or 300 computer with 2.5 MB of memory
is recommended; not 9826A. 9816 limited to 2 megabytes.
2. Connect the reference port extension cables as shown above.
(Not applicable for 85110, 8516, 8517.)
3. Only use factory preset (not user preset) during service. Be sure
multi-source, phase lock external or phase lock none are turned off.
"Preflight Checkout"
(OPTIONAL)
EXTENSION A
08510-60101
RF INPUT
RF OUTPUT
Source Control Cable
**
used with 8516A only
Note:
*
For 8340 or 8350, a BNC open must be
connected to the 85102 trigger input.
For 8360, a BNC open 1250-0053 should be
*
To 85101
to the 85102 SWEEP IN 0-10V.connected
Note:
Cannot be mixed
with 8360s.
RF INPUT
To Test Set
RF OUTPUT
PRINTERSPLOTTERS
2225A
33447A
2225D
33440A
D2106A
33471A
3630A
33449A
System Bus
Ext Display
GPIB
7440A
7475A
7550A
7550B
For a complete list
of compatible
printers/plotters
see the 8510C
Ordering Guide.
GPIB Cables
8120-3445
External
Controller
STOP SWEEP
SWEEP IN 0-10V
J10 TEST SET INTERCONNECT
*
*
10MHz IN
TRIGGER INPUT
EXTENSION B
J11 TEST SET INTERCONNECT
Source Interface
Source Control
**
10MHz
08516-60009
Auxilliary
Interface
TRIGGER OUTPUT
STOP SWEEP
SWEEP OUTPUT
001
1
0
LLL
321
You will need to cycle power to accept new settings.
8350B
SOURCE
(ADDRESS 19)
Firmware rev 6 for 8350B main frame - press [SHIFT] [49]
Firmware rev 7 for 8359X series plug ins - press [SHIFT] [99]
RF INPUT
To Test Set
Firmware Rev 6 for 8350B
Firmware rev 6 for 835XX series plug ins - press [SHIFT] [99]
RF OUTPUT
Some 83592A's do not have
DC block cap so will not work
with 8510=no phase lock.
To upgrade the 8350A to work with the 8510, order upgrade kit
Note:
System Bus
Part No. 08350-60100
4. An 8340 or 8360 requires a source interconnect cable
(Part No. 08510-60009) connection when the test set is
used as an 8516. 8350 cannot be used with 8516 above 20 GHz.
5. Instrument power-on sequence: Source, Test Set, 85102, 85101.
Check power line modules for local line voltage. Check GPIB
addresses of all instruments. For 8360, set language switch to 001.
For 8340/41 set FREQUENCY STANDARD switch to INTERNAL.
Ecal requires Rev. 4.0
minimum
Master Calib. Constants
disk 08510-10034 A.6
Never used with
8360 Series
If connected to 85102B:
8510C system will lock up
or not work properly.
DO NOT USE WITH 85102B/8510C!
19
000 = TMSL/SCPI
010 = MATE LANG
AAAAA
54321
001 = NA LANG ADDRESS = 19
111 = OVERIDE
SWEEP OUTPUT
SWEEP OUT/IN
To 85101
RF INTERCONNECT
BNC Cables
8120-1840
08510-60102
Not used with
8510 A/B
Rev. 5.14 or less.
OK for8510B/C
6.0 or greater.
To 85102
STOP SWEEP
SWEEP IN 0-10V
rs411c
Agilent 8510C Installation
Preflight Checkout
1-48510C Service Quick Reference Guide
2Instrument Compatibility
8510C Service Quick Reference Guide2-1
Instrument Compatibility
Upgrading an 8340/8350 Source
Upgrading an 8340/8350 Source
8340/41 and 8350 series sources are out of support life and are no longer recommended for
use in 8510C systems.
Not all 8340/41 sources are compatible with the 8510B/C. If the serial prefix is not 2505A
or greater, or previously upgraded, the firmware may need to be upgraded to get full
performance (within feature limitations) and a minimum of bugs. For example, with
Nov.82 firmware, if you program CW Single Point, and then change to step or ramp and
back to CW, you will get exactly 5 GHz offset in the RF source frequency.
8340/41 sources with serial prefix 2505A or greater may also need to be upgraded
depending on the 8510C operating system revision used. 8340/41 sourc es can work with
the newer revisions of 8510C f irmwar e C .07. xx and C . 08.xx (within f eature limitations and
with a minimum of bugs) provided they have a source firmware date of 1992 or later.
Please consult with your Agilent customer engineer for more information on upgrading a
network analyzer and/or source firmware.
2-28510C Service Quick Reference Guide
Instrument Compatibility
Upgrading an 8360 Source
Upgrading an 8360 Source
All 8360 series instruments are compatible, but not all allow use of quick-step, test-port
power flatness correction, receiver calibration, and power domain functions without
upgrading them. Refer to Table 2-1 for upgrades required for these functions.
8510C revision C. 07.00 or greater firmware requires use of an 8360 series sour ce for
complete compatibility. Revision C .06.xx firmware does not support receiver calibration or
power domain functions.
Table 2-18360 Upgrade Summary
Agilent Model Serial PrefixRequired for Test Port Flatnes s
Correction
83630A
83650AAll
83651A
< 3103A
83621A3103A
83631A3104A to 3111A
≥ 3112A
83620A
83622A≤ 3103A
83623A3104A to 3111A
83624A3112A to 3144A
83640A≥ 3145A
83642A
1. Fully compatible at time of shipment
2. Includes installation
3. Quick Step cannot be retrofitted to these models.
4. 8360 series requires firmware ≥ 23 Oct. 90.
5. 8360 series requires firmware ≥ 06 Mar. 91.
6. Receiver Cal requires 8510C rev. C.07.00 or greater.
08360-60167 firmware kit
08360-60201 firmware kit
No modification required
No modification required
4
or Receiver Cal
1
2,5
5
5
1
4
4
1
1
6
Required for
Quick Step
note 3
note 3
note 3
5
8510C Service Quick Reference Guide2-3
Instrument Compatibility
8360 Series Coupler to Bridge Detector
8360 Series Coupler to Bridge Detector
All 8510B/C systems when used with an 8360 series source that have a bridge detector
inside will potentially cause an over-modulation running error message. If your 8510C has
Rev.7.0 or greater, an RF unleveled caution message will also be displayed.
Agilent ModelCoupler to Detector Conversion PrefixDetermination
83620Prefix equal to and greater than 3245Awill cause problem
83622Prefix equal to and greater than 3245Awill cause problem
83630Prefix equal to and greater than 3245Awill cause problem
83650Prefix equal to and greater than 3245Awill cause problem
83621Prefix equal to and greater than 3139Awill cause problem
83631Prefix equal to and greater than 3139Awill cause problem
83651Prefix equal to and greater than 3139Awill cause problem
83623Couplers onlywill not cause problem
83624Couplers onlywill not cause problem
Workaround
Increase your source power and use te st set attenuato rs, or use a source that has a coupler
in its leveling loop. The problem is caused by dc switching spikes from the test set RF pin
diode switch getting back into the sources leveling loop and causing an unleveled
condition. If this is not satisfactory, there are three upgrade kits available: the 8514B
/8515A /85110A (08510-60119), 8517B (08510-60118), and the 85110L (08510-60121) test
sets. The upgrade kit will eliminate the RF switching spikes from getting back into the
source leveling loop by installing a dc return between the RF input and RF pin diode
switch inside the test set. Contact an Agilent engineer for ins tallation of these kits.
2-48510C Service Quick Reference Guide
Instrument Compatibility
Dedicated 8510 System Source Models
Dedicated 8510 System Source Models
Dedicated sources are optimized for use as 8510 system components. They are configured
without modulation capabilities or front panel keyboard/displays. They have rear
connectors, and one-year on-site service where available. Specifications for these models
are the 8510 specifications with the following additions:
Frequency Range (all serial prefixes)
83621A/B45 MHz to 20 GHz
83631A/B45 MHz to 26.5 GHz
83651A/B45 MHz to 50 GHz
Resolution
Maximum Leveled Output Power
(all serial prefixes)
If your source does not meet these power requirements, you may need to retrack the YIG
oscillator. When you look at power, also check for spikes, powerholes, and squegging.
1. Specifications apply over the 0 to 35 ×C temperature range (0 to 25
Maximum leveled output power over the 35 to 55 ×C temperature range typically degrades by less than
2 dB.
1
+13+13
o
C for output frequencies > 20 GHz).
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