Turbosound MAN210-FG Quick Start Guide

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MANCHESTER Series

MV210-HC

Full Size Dual 10" Hybrid Curve Element for Install and Touring

MS121

Single 21" Front Loaded Subwoofer for Touring and Install Applications

MAN210-FG

Universal Fly Grid for MANCHESTER MV210-HC Array Elements and MS121 subwoofers

MV210-V T

Vertical Transporter for 4 MANCHESTER MV210-HC Line Array Elements

MS121-VT

Vertical Transporter for MANCHESTER MS121 Subwoofers

V 0.0

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(EN) Safety Instruction

1. Read these instructions.

2. Keep these instructions.

3. Heed all warnings.

4. Follow all instructions.

5. Do not use this apparatus near water.

6. Clean only with dry cloth.

7. Do not block any ventilation openings. Install in

accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions.

8. Do not install near any heat sources such as radiators, heat registers, stoves, or other apparatus (including ampliers) that produce heat.

9. Use only attachments/accessories specied by the manufacturer.

10. Use only with the cart, stand, tripod, bracket, or table specied by the manufacturer, or sold with the apparatus. When a cart is used, use caution when moving the cart/apparatus

combination to avoid injury from tip-over.

LEGAL DISCLAIMER

Music Tribe accepts no liability for any loss which may be suered by any person who relies either wholly or in part upon any description, photograph, or statement contained herein. Technical specications, appearances and other information are subject to change without notice. All trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Midas, Klark Teknik, Lab Gruppen, Lake, Tannoy, Turbosound, TC Electronic, TC Helicon, Behringer, Bugera, Aston Microphones and Coolaudio are trademarks or registered trademarks of Music Tribe Global Brands Ltd. © Music Tribe Global Brands Ltd. 2023 All rights reserved.

LIMITED WARRANTY

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Welcome

Thank you for choosing a Turbosound loudspeaker product for your application. If you would like further information about this or any other product, please visit our website at turbosound.com.

Unpacking theLoudspeaker

After unpacking the unit, please check carefully for damage. If damage is found, please notify your supplier at once. You, the consignee, must instigate any claim. Please retain all packaging in case of future returnshipment.

System Requirements

The MV210-HC is a bi-amp 3-way loudspeaker with a passive crossover used on the mid and high frequency bands. It requires 2 channels of amplier and DSP. With these Lake XP-based pre-sets, the Module Output Mixing (MoM) setup is no longer used, but instead, these pre-sets utilize the 3 band Multiband on each of the Module outputs.

The MS121 subwoofer requires 1 channel of amplier and DSP for normal forward ring operation. Cardioid bass set ups will require additional amplier and DSP channels.

All Manchester series Loudspeakers exclusively use LAKE pre-sets via Lab Gruppen PLM+ and D series L platforms. No other amplier and DSP platforms are supported.

Manchester series has a powerful yet simple pre-set strategy utilizing the latest functionality of LAKE soft ware, along with new acoustic compensation for length of array and throw distances required (explained later in this QSG).

Pre-set data is found either via the Lake Load Library or can be downloaded from www.turbosound.com

Recommended Lab Gruppen PLM+ models for Touring applications are the PLM12k44 and PLM20k44.

For installations using Lab Gruppen D series L models, please use Lab Gruppen ‘CAFE’ software - available for download from www.labgruppen.com - to determine the optimum amplier conguration for your system.

11. Correct disposal of this product: This symbol indicates that this product must not be disposed of with household waste, according to the WEEE Directive (2012/19/EU) and your national law. This product should be taken

to a collection center licensed for the recycling of waste electrical and electronic equipment (EEE). The mishandling of this type of waste could have a possible negative impact on the environment and human health due to potentially hazardous substances that are generally associated with EEE. At the same time, your cooperation in the correct disposal of this product will contribute to the ecient use of natural resources. For more information about where you can take your waste equipment for recycling, please contact your local city oce, or your household waste collection service.

12. Do not install in a conned space, such as a book case or similar unit.

13. Do not place naked ame sources, such as lighted candles, on the apparatus.

System Cabling Requirements

To avoid wasting amplier power, you should use heavy-duty speaker cable with a minimum wire size of 2.5 mm² (14 AWG), and preferably 4 mm² (12 AWG) for longer runs or where total cabinet input impedance is less than 8 ohms. For extreme cable lengths, be aware of cable impedance and resistive losses. Always observe the correctpolarity.

Use genuine NEUTRIX SPEAKON CONNECTORS for reliable operation.

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SubwooferCabling

NOTE: Since the MS121 subwoofer is wired 1+/- = LF and 2+/- = LINK, in order to power multiple MS121 enclosures, it is advised to construct SUB LINK cables wired: 2+ -> 1+ and 2- -> 1- .

To power two subwoofers per amplier channel, standard NL4 link cables from Lab Gruppen bi-wired NL4 outputs (Channel 1 = 1+/-; Channel 2 = 2+/-) can be used in conjunction with a SUB LINK cable. Refer to wiring diagrams below for further details.

To power one subwoofer per amplier channel, a single NL4 cable from Lab Gruppen bi-wired NL4 outputs (Channel 1 = 1+/-; Channel 2 = 2+/-) connects to the rst subwoofer, then the SUB LINK cable connects to the second subwoofer.

LAB GRUPPEN PLM + Series

in LAKE software on pins 1 +/- and 2 +/-

MS121

Plays Amp Channel 1

NL4 - NL4 four-conductor cable with standard wiring (1+/- to 1+/- and 2+/- to 2+/-)

MS121

Plays Amp Channel 2

Cardioid BFF (back, forward, forward) Using 4-Core NL4 cable, 2 DSP and 2 amplier channels

LAB GRUPPEN PLM + Series

in LAKE software on pins 1 +/- and 2 +/-

All cables are NL4 - NL4 four-conductor with standard wiring (1+/- to 1+/- and 2+/- to 2+/-)

Cardioid: 1 Reversed 2 Forward

MS121

THIS NL4 USES PINS 1+/- and 2+/-

MS121

THIS NL4 USES PINS 1+/- and 2+/-

MS121

FRONT Preset Patched to Pins 1 +/-

Plays Amp Channel 1

MS121

THIS NL4 USES

PINS 2+ / 2-

NL4 - NL4 two-conductor “SUB LINK” cable cross wired from pin 2+ to 1+ and pin 2 - to 1-

MS121

THIS NL4 USES

PINS 1+ / 1-

Plays Amp Channel 2

BACK Preset Patched to Pins 2 +/-

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BI-AMP, Input Low +

Amplier Channel 1

Amplier Channel 2

Input SUB -

Input SUB +

NL4 Input/ Link

NL4 Front Input

Front Input SUB +

Not Connected

Front Input SUB -

Connections

Mode BackPane l and Front Panel Connector InternalSchematic

MV210- HC

MS121 rear panel

MS121 front panel

BI-AMP, Input Low -

BI-AMP, Input High +

BI-AMP, Input High -

Pins 2+/2- do not co nnect to the L F driver, they are ju st used to li nk.

NL4

Input/

Link

1+ NL4 Input/ Link

2 -

Rigging and Acoustic SimulationSoftware

Refer to the MAN210-FG rigging manual for safe suspension and installation of the loudspeakers, y grid and all suspensionhardware.

MHF

LF 1

LF 2

LF 1

MANCHESTER Series loudspeakers and y grid are designed and tested to strict BGV-C1 standards. Suspension of these speakers must be performed in accordance with the MAN210-FG y grid rigging manual available online at turbosound.com

EASE Focus 3 is an acoustic simulation program, available as a free download from https://www.afmg.eu/en/ease-focus

2 -

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SuspendedArrays

Safety Warning: Only authorised and

certied personnel shall design and install suspended congurations, following the instructions and procedures in the MAN210-FG y grid rigging manual available online at turbosound.com. For maximum array sizes, weights and working load limits, please consult this rigging manual. Failure to follow these instructions may lead to death or permanent injury.

The versatile MAN210-FG y grid allows the Manchester MV210-HC and MS121 speakers to be own in a number of dierent congurations.

The MAN210-FG comes with a multi-pick point tip bar for single or dual suspension.

The MAN210-FG also comes with a single pick point plate that may be used instead of the tip bar.

Subwoofer Array Example

Two MS121 subwoofer s attached to an MAN210-FG y grid. The subwoofers can also be mounted rear-ring.

Hybrid Array Example

A second MAN210-FG is attached to the bottom of the lower MS121 subwoofer. MV210-HC speakers can then be attached to this lower y grid.

GroundStacking

Safety Warning: Only authorised

personnel shall design and rig the ground stacked conguration, following the instructions and procedures in the MAN210-FG y grid rigging manual available online at turbosound.com. Failure to follow these instructions may lead to death or permanent injury.

MV210-HC Groundstack Example

The MAN210-FG y grid comes with a ground stack plate that attaches to the rear mounting point on the lowest MV210-HC. Two outriggers with adjustable feet oer extra stability and support. The outriggers can be tted in three positions, depending on if the array is tilted forward, upright, or tilted back.

Lake Preset Overlays and ApplicationNotes

All Manchester series Loudspeakers exclusively use Lake XP pre-sets via Lab Gruppen PLM+ and D series L platforms. No other amplier and DSP platforms are supported.

The Manchester series has a powerful yet simple pre-set strategy utilizing the latest functionality of Lake software, along with new acoustic compensation overlays for length of array and throw distances required.

Pre-set data is found either via the Lake Load Library, or can be downloaded from ww w.turbosound.com

MV212, MV212-XV, MV210-HC & MC12-P loudspeakers each have individual Bi-AMP FIR base pre-sets: Full range with or without MS Subwoofers.

* MC12-P also have bi-amp (2 channel DSP/AMP) and passive (1 channel DSP/AMP).

CAUTION: Do not combine MV212 / MV212XV / MV210-HC / MC12-P loudspeakers on the same amplier / DSP circuit. Failure to follow these instruc tions may lead to damage to the equipment.

CAUTION: Pay careful attention to output patching.

MV212, MV212-XV, MV210-HC, MC12-P, MS Subwoofer modules are based on the XP module from Lake software.

This QSG refers to REV2.1 XP presets.

CAUTION: REV1.1 (older 'FIR3way' modules) and REV2.1 XP modules ARE NOT COMPATIBLE IN THE SAME SYSTEM.

Lake software V7.0.7 or above must be used.

LakeXP signal ow:

The MAN210-FG also comes with side support 'outriggers' with adjustable feet to aid stability, for forward or rearward array tilt. A ground stack plate attaches to the rear mounting point on MV210-HC speakers for ground stacking.

MV210-HC Array Example MV210-HC speakers attached to the MAN210-FG Fly

Grid. The MV210-HC rear mounting plates adjust the angles.

Hybrid Groundstack Example

The MAN210-FG y grid may be connected to the top of an MS121 subwoofer, and then MV210-HC speakers connected to the top of the y grid.

The download of the Lake controller includes the Lake Controller Operation Manual, which is a full tutorial of the Lake Controller and compatible hardware such as PLM+ series ampliers

Within this QSG, we focus on the Turbosound Manchester series workow and pre-set strategy, and assume basic working knowledge of the Lake Controller.

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DESCRIPTION OVER LAY

1.1: Frame (Amplier) is in the Main workspace page

Here we can see a default PLM12k44 frame with no DSP pre-set modules loaded.

How to load a module from the Lake Load Library:

Left-click on Module A in the frame.

Module A is now outlined in yellow, and the buttons at the bottom of the workspace show various module options. The Modules button is also highlighted there.

DESCRIPTION OVER LAY

Folders now appear, and these allow you to select where to recall the module (pre-set) from.

Double click the "Lake Load Library 5.5" folder.

Scroll using the arrow keys >> << along the bottom, to nd the "Suitable for TURBOSOUND Loudspeakers" folder, then double click to open it.

To Load a module :

Click the ‘ Module Store/Recall’ button.

Now scroll again >> << to nd the "Manchester REV2.1 XP" folder, then double click to open it.

CAUTION: Do not open the "Manchester" folder as this may contain older REV1.1 FIR3way modules which are replaced by REV2.1 XP in October 2022. Note that this QSG only refers to the REV2.1 XP module.

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DESCRIPTION OVER LAY

Three folders appear. Double click "Modules"

CAUTION: Do not open "Array Size Comp" or "Distance EQ" yet. These are EQ overlays, explained later in this QSG.

The available module folders are displayed.

Left-click on any of these to show more details about the module set up.

TIP: Please read the information!

DESCRIPTION OVER LAY

Output Conguration:

Now you can patch the DSP module output to the frame's amplier outputs

For this Module we want Low to pins 1 and high to pins 2. The patch is highlighted in yellow boxes with red text

Once you have nished the correct output patch, press enter to close the output conguration

Note: you will get access to the screen once you go through the same process to load other pre-set modules into the free C & D modules or via the IO option button

Now you can see the pre-set module is recalled and loaded into A/B hardware modules

Double-clicking the 'modules' folder will open the module pre-set in the highlighted module of the Frame (amplier)

Press ‘YES’ to proceed –the selected pre-set module is loaded!

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SUBWOOFER STRATEGY

The Manchester series has a powerful yet simple Subwoofer pre-set strategy.

Warning: Do not combine MS215, MS218, MS121 subwoofers on the same amplier/DSP circuit.

Cardioid BF

1:1 r ati o

1 cabinet facing Front, 1 cabinet facing Back

• Eective cardioid patten

• Good rear rejection

• Some compromise of transience response

• Less ecient use of subwoofers

Cardioid BFF

2:1 rat io

2 cabinets facing Front, 1 cabinet facing Back

• Eective cardioid patten

• Good rear rejection

• Some compromise of transience response

• The best ratio for ecient use

ILLUSTRATION

Back

Front

Back

Array Size Compensation (ASC)Overlays

Three ASC overlays are available, and it is recommended that ALL enclosures in the array have ASCselec ted.

The 6 dB low-frequency shelving characteristic osets LF/MF arraycoupling.

Note: Single MV210-HC do not normally require ASCoverlay.

ASC OVERL AYDESCRIPTIO N OVER LAY

ASC 2 to 4: 2 to 4cabinets

Ground

ASC 5 to 8: 5 to 8cabine ts

Ground

Inverted End Fire

1:1 r ati o

Front cabinets using FRONT preset

Rear cabinets using REAR preset. Rear cabinets facing forward, at the rear in a 2 cell inverted end re array

• Eective cardioid patten

• Good rear rejection

• Excellent transience response

• Ecient use of subwoofers

• More physical depth required (800 mm + 440 mm + 80 0mm)

Traditional

• All cabinets facing Front

• Eectively omni directional

• Excellent transience response

Rear

440 mm

Front

Ground

Front

ASC +8: more than 8c abinets

Ground

ASC OVERL AYDESCRIPTIO N OVER LAY

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DISTANCE EQCOMPENSATION OVER LAY

All speakers are aected by air loss over distance; this set of overlays is in increments of 3 m, and ensures a balanced

Two elements per ampliﬁer DSP module block

high frequency response over distance. Peaking or Bell lters are used to keep headroom in the high frequency band rather than high shelf lters which unnecessarily use up headroom for frequency which will not travel over fardistances.

Rules of AirEQ:

DO NOT INSERT MORE THAN 1 FILTER AT THE SAMETIME.

FOR INTERMEDIATE DISTANCES, USE THE CLOSEST OVERLAYAVAILABLE

AirEQ overlays are availableat: 9 m, 12 m, 15 m, 18 m, 21 m, 24 m, 27 m, 40 m, 50 m, and + 50m

Below are some examples of how the useful frequency and gain changes overdistance:

AirEQ12 m – For elements within an array aimed at 12 mdistance

AirEQ 12 m

AirEQ 15 m

AirEQ 18 m

AirEQ 21 m

EQ STRATEGY: Considerations for consistant frequency response in the soundeld

Flat arrays (minimium inter-element angle between

Flat Array

elements) will have an increase in the mid frequency band typically between 630 Hz -2kHz

Curved array (inter-element angle used between elements) will have decrease in the mid frequency band typically

Curved Array

between 630 Hz -2kHz

Flat Array Frequency Response

Boost in Mid Energy

due to physical coupling

Low Frequencies Mid Frequencies

Curved Array Frequency Response

Cut in Mid Energy

due to physical de-coupling

High Frequencies

AirEQ15 m – For elements within an array aimed at 15 mdistance

AirEQ18 m – For elements within an array aimed at 18 mdistance

AirEQ21 m – For elements within an array aimed at 21mdistance

It is recommended that you split the EQ strategy to suit the mechanical cur vature of the array, to gain consistant frequency response.

Example: Here we have a typical J curved array of 8 MV210-HC elements – as we have 2 MV210-HC elements per Lake DSP module, it gives 4 discrete ZONEs that can have small adjustments in the mid band area that is aected by the mechanical aiming of the array causing coupling andde-coupling.

Using one of the many industry-standard measurement software systems, reference microphones and sound-cards, nd the mid range frequency aected, and adjust each zone for consistant frequency response between zones / sound eldarea.

Lake software oers integration to many of these software systems, further information can be found at www.labgruppen.com

Curved Array

Low Frequencies Mid Frequencies

Curved Array EQ Adjustments

High Frequencies

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SUBWOOFER TIMEALIGNMENT ILLUSTRATION OVER LAY

MS121 pre-sets use all-pass lters to set the

1. Subs areforward

initial time alignment (assuming the fronts of the cabinets are in line) this greatly reduces systemlatency.

For example: If the fronts of the MV210-HC and MS121 are aligned, then in both pre-sets, the delay should be set to the default which is0ms.

However, in the real world it is not always possible to have your own array and your ground stacked bass aligned in the verticalplane.

1. In the picture to the right, the MS121 subs are ‘forward’ of the MV210-HC own array. So the MS121 subs need to be delayed.

2. In the picture to the right, the MV210-HC own

2. Flown array isforward

array is now ‘forward’ of the MS121 ground stacked subs. So the MV210-HC array needs to bedelayed.

So how do you nd the correct delay time to align the own array to the ground stackedbass?

Some basic knowledge of delay units can get you an acceptable result by measuring the distance between the fronts of the own array and the front of the ground stacked array. Remember within Lake software you can choose the delay unit; ms, m, orfeet.

1 ms (milliseconds) = 0.343 m (meters) = 1.125 ft (feet)

Further ne-tuning can be done by using one of the many industry standard measurement software systems, reference microphones and sound-cards. Lake software oers integration to many of these software systems, and further information can be found at www.labgruppen.com

Specications

MV210 -HC MS121

System

Frequency response (-3 dB)

Frequency response (-10 dB) Nominal dispersion 100 degrees (H) x 20 degrees (V) Omni

Power handling (IEC)

Sensitivity

Maximum SPL 144 dB ³ 142 dB ⁴

Impedance

Crossover type Externalbi-amp —

Components

IP Rating 54 54

UV Rating 4-5 4-5

Enclosure

Connectors 2 x speakON NLT4MPSTX 3 x speakON NLT4MPSTX

Wiring Pins 1+ / 1- LF, pins 2+ / 2-MHF

Dimensions H x W x D

Net weight 35.5 kg (78.3lbs) 87.4 kg (192.7lbs)

Construction

Finish

Grille Powder coated perforatedsteel Powder coated per foratedsteel

Flying hardware 3 point riggingsystem 4 point riggingsystem

Accessories

Fly Grid MAN210-FG ygrid MAN210-FG ygrid Vertical Transporter MV210 -VT MS121-V T

58 Hz - 20kHz 25 Hz - 95Hz 42 Hz - 20kHz 20 Hz - 200Hz

LF: 800 W continuous 2000 W continuous

MHF: 190 W continuous —

LF: 102 dB (1 W @ 1 m) ² 97 dB (1 W @ 1 m)²

MHF: 114.5 dB (1 W @ 1 m) ² —

LF: 8Ω 8Ω

MHF: 12Ω —

2 x 10" (250 mm) LFdriver 1 x 21" (530 mm) LFdriver

1 x 1.4" (35 mm) exit, large format

dual compressiondriver

295 x 715 x 545 mm

(11.6 x 28.1 x 21.5")

15 mm (enclosure) and 18 mm

(front) marine birch plywo od,

vented and internallybraced

Polyurethane black, with custom

colours onrequest

—

Pins 1+ / 1- LF, pins 2+ / 2- LINK

(Front Pins 2+ / 2- only)

599 x 777 x 800 mm (23.6 x 30.6 x 31.5")

Mix 21 mm and 18 mm marine

birch plywood, vented and

internallybraced

Polyurethane black, with custom

colours onrequest

Distance (time) is the dierence to add to the own array for alignment at the listening point

Notes 1. Averag e over stated bandw idth. Measured at 1 m etre onaxis.

2. SPL leve l at 1 m under free eld c onditions, using p ink noise with cre st factor 4, with d edicatedpre- set.

3. Average Pe ak level over overlap ban dwidth. Measure d at 1 metre on axis wi th dedicatedpre -set.

4. Peak lev el at 1 m under half space co nditions using pin k noise with cres t factor 4, with de dicatedpre-s et. Eas e Data can be downloa ded from www.tu rbosound.com

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Other important information

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