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Neve 8816 User Manual

Neve 8816
16:2 Summing Mixer
User Manual
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Issue 6.5
The 8816 is a 16:2 summing mixer with comprehensive input, mixing and monitoring functions,
with VU meters, remix and Recall as standard.
In addition to the standard 8816 there is also a digital outputs option and an optional fader pack.
Health & Safety Notice
For your own safety and for the protection of others, please observe the following safety instructions:
• Read these instructions.
• Heed all safety warnings.
• Do not use near water.
• Clean only with a dry cloth.
• Do not install near heat sources.
• Do not block ventilation openings.
• Protect the power cord.
• Only use accessories specified by the manufacturer.
• Unplug when unused for long periods of time.
• Refer all servicing to qualified personnel only.
Support: http://www.ams-neve.info/crm/fault_report.html
AMS NEVE
Billington Road
Burnley
Lancs
BB11 5UB
England
Phone +44 (0)1282 457011
Fax: +44 (0)1282 417282
Email: info@ams-neve.com
Web: www.ams-neve.com
© 2007-2010 AMS Neve Ltd own the copyright of all information and drawings contained in this manual which are not to be copied or reproduced by any means or disclosed in part or whole to any third party without written permission. As part of our policy of continual product improvement, we reserve the right to alter specifications without notice but with due regard to all current legislation. Disclaimer: The information in this manual has been carefully checked and is believed to be accurate at the time of publication. However, no responsibility is taken by us for inaccuracies, errors or omissions nor any liability assumed for any loss or damage resulting either directly or indirectly from use of the information contained within it. Trademarks: All trademarks are the property of their respective owners and are hereby acknowledged.
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Table of Contents
Health & Safety Notice.........................................2
System Requirements.................................4
Customer Service.......................................4
Introduction...........................................................5
Note on Headroom and Levels.....................5
Application Scenarios..........................................6
Recording.................................................6
Recording with the optional Fader Pack.........7
Overdubbing.............................................8
Mixing......................................................9
Mixing with Fader Pack.............................10
Mastering................................................11
Live Recording.........................................12
Sub Mixer................................................13
Controls...............................................................14
Channel Strip...........................................14
Level Control...........................................14
Pan Control.............................................14
Cue Control Button...................................14
Channel Cut /Solo button..........................15
Cue Section.............................................15
2T to Cue................................................15
Headphone Mon.......................................15
Headphone Control...................................15
Headphone Jack.......................................15
Master Section....................................................16
Alt Spk...................................................16
iMon.......................................................16
Talkback Level.........................................16
Talkback Microphone................................16
INS MIX .................................................16
IMR Level Control.....................................16
INS........................................................16
2TR MIX..................................................17
2TR Level Control.....................................17
Monitor Selections....................................17
Mon Level...............................................18
Sum.......................................................18
Width Control..........................................18
<W> button............................................18
Mix Level................................................18
Analogue / Digital overload indication.........18
Metering.................................................19
Power Switch...........................................19
Options................................................................20
Fader Pack Option....................................20
ADC Option.............................................21
Sampling Frequency.................................21
Single / Double Rate AES Output................21
DSD.......................................................22
Rear Panel Connectors and Controls...............23
Line Output.............................................23
Line Input...............................................23
Talkback Foot Switch................................23
USB........................................................23
Rear Panel Controls..................................23
Earth Lift Switch......................................23
Slave Bus Switch......................................23
ADC Option.............................................24
ADC L & R Insert......................................24
AES Sync................................................24
WCLK In.................................................24
WCLK Out...............................................24
AES Out..................................................24
DSD L and R............................................24
75 Ohm WCLK.........................................24
SDIF 2/3.................................................24
Firmware Upgrades............................................25
Selecting a File for Transfer.......................25
File Downloading......................................26
Corrupted or Old Firmware........................26
Physical & Technical Information.....................27
Dimensions.............................................27
Rack Mounting and Cooling........................27
Power Requirements.................................27
Mains Supply...........................................27
System Settings..................................................28
Setting the Headroom on the optional A to D
card.......................................................28
Monitor Source pre/post ADC Insert...........28
Fader Pack Jumper Settings.......................29
Multiple 8816 / 8804................................30
Unit Specifications.............................................31
Connectors..........................................................32
Recall Software Installation..............................35
Installation for PC....................................35
Installation for Mac...................................37
New Versions of Recall Software for Mac.....37
Appendix: A3 Signal Flow Block Diagrams
8816
Optional Fader Pack control Optional ADC board installation
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System Requirements
The 8816 may be used as a standalone unit.
If you wish to use the units Recall facility, it should be connected directly to the computer or via a powered USB hub but not via a passive USB hub.
If you wish to use the Neve Recall software to store and reload user configurations you must have one of the following supported operating systems:
PC
• Windows 2000, Service Pack 4 or later
• Windows XP, Service Pack 3 or later
• Vista, Service Pack 1 or later
Mac
• Mac OS 10.3.9 or later
Customer Service
In the unlikely event that this unit should malfunction or develop a fault, then please register the fault details on our website by clicking the link below.
You will also need to enter the unit's serial number when you do this, so please have this to hand.
http://www.ams-neve.info/crm/fault_report.html
Once the fault details have been registered, one of our technical support team will be in touch via email.
This link should also be used for further operational or technical help, or any general enquiry about the unit.
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Introduction
The 8816 is an extremely versatile 16:2 summing mixer, which can produce the highest possible recording and mixing performances in any format using revered Neve analogue designs including transformer mixing.
With comprehensive input, mixing and monitoring functions, 8816 can upgrade a DAW to a professional mixing facility.
Not only does the unit provide quite unbelievable analogue facilities but also has remix and Recall as standard.
In addition to the superb facilities offered as standard on the 8816 there are two options, digital outputs and a fader pack.
ADC Output
World class A to Ds with sampling rates of up to 192kHz and DSD outputs.
Note on Headroom and Levels
Analogue insert points are provided ahead of the ADCs that couple the ultimate analogue circuitry with superior digital conversion making the unit an obvious choice for complete integration with a DAW.
NOTE: The ADC option requires internal fitting. Please consult your local Neve dealer.
Fader Pack
16 Input Faders with Cut / Solo controls and post fade direct outputs plus 2 Master Faders give the engineer fine level control with a traditional feel.
With the fader unit attached, the rotary channel level controls become aux pre-fade send levels, increasing the functionality of the unit.
• Each channel has 15dB of gain also known as 15dB 'in hand'.
• Excessive use of gain may overload your DAW or other recording device. 0dB on the channel level control is approx at the 12’o’clock position.
• Internal headroom is 26dBu.
• If your DAW is overloading but the overload indicators on the 8816 meters are not illuminated, then reduce your output levels.
• If your DAW is overloading and the red overload indicators are illuminated then you may need to reduce your input levels.
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Application Scenarios
Recording
Headphones
Studio
Engineer Headphones
PC / Mac
Mic
1073 DPA
Pro Tools
1 – 16 Line In
The 8816 can be used to monitor from the workstation while recording directly from a mic pre such as the 1073DPD or as a pre-mixer for recording a number of signals simultaneously to the workstation.
With the optional fader pack, direct outs can be used from the 8816 to the DAW enabling it to be used like a conventional desk with both recording and monitoring signals passing through the unit.
Direct recording with 8816 as monitor
Connect the output of the mic pre to the input of the workstation. Connect the outputs of the workstation to the inputs of the 8816. The 8816 outputs can be monitored on loudspeakers or headphones as required. The performers headphones source can be switched (engineer/performer).
Sub-mixing signals to be recorded
Connect the instruments to be recorded to the inputs of the 8816 (via a 1073 or similar mic pre if required). Connect the main output of the 8816 to the inputs of the workstation (this can be analogue or digital if the optional digital card is fitted).
Set the balance required using the channel level controls on the 8816 and record onto the workstation.
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Recording with the optional Fader Pack
Headphones
Studio 1 – 16 Line In
Engineer Headphones
PC / Mac
Mic
1073 DPA
Direct Out
Pro Tools Fader Pack
Connect the instruments to be recorded to channel inputs on the 8816 and connect the direct outputs from these channels to the inputs of the DAW (the direct outs are located on the fader pack).
These channels can be muted so that they do not go to the main bus if monitoring via the 8816 or a monitor mix can be set up on the DAW and monitored via the 2 Track Return on the 8816.
Signals can now be recorded with fader control over their level while the mix or play back is monitored through the 8816.
In all of the above recording situations the engineer can utilise the 8816 to control monitoring via two pairs of speakers and/or the headphones as required.
The 8816 can also be used to provide a Cue to performer headphones.
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Overdubbing
PC / Mac
Backing Tracks Ch 15-16 Channels 1 -14
Connect the outputs of the workstation to the inputs of the 8816. If you have a backing track pre-mix on your workstation assign this to outputs connected to inputs 15/16 on the 8816.
Connect the output of the track being recorded to any of inputs 1-14 on the
8816.
Connect the performer’s headphones to the headphone socket on the rear of the 8816.
The cue mix level of the overdub against the backing track can be adjusted using the Cue level control until the mix is right for the performer.
The 2-Track Return can also be routed to the Cue so may be used as an effects return if the performer wishes to listen to a guide reverb while recording.
The engineer can monitor on headphones connected to the front of the 8816 and can switch between monitoring the performer’s cue mix and the main mix.
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Mixing
` PC / Mac
Neve 33609
Pro Tools
Stereo 1-8 & 9-16 Main Out
Line In Insert Send & Return
Connect the outputs of the workstation to the inputs of the 8816. Key elements such as lead vocals and lead instruments should be kept separate within the workstation and connected to individual inputs on the 8816.
Other elements such as backing vocals, effects, etc can be routed to stereo groups within the workstation and these groups connected to the 8816 inputs.
Optimum sound quality within the workstation is generally achieved by setting the virtual faders to 0dB.
Final mix levels can be set on the 8816.
The mix is now being created on the mix bus of the 8816. This uses the same transformer mix topology as the classic 80 series Neve consoles and recreates their legendary sound. Recording back to the DAW or onto another device such as a CDR may be analogue or, if the digital option is fitted, can be from the Neve Analogue to Digital Converters ensuring the best possible sound quality.
A Neve 33609 compressor or a Neve 8803 EQ unit can be patched across the Insert allowing the whole mix to be compressed or EQ’d. Sometimes it is necessary to mix between a clean mix and a processed mix, for example when using a Filter Bank to create a special effect across the whole mix for one section of a song. This can be done by patching the filter bank across the Inserts of the 8816 and switching to Insert Mix mode.
The balance between the clean mix and the processed mix is now controlled by the Insert Mix level control and the engineer can switch between clean and processed mix or balance the two as required.
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Mixing with Fader Pack
PC / Mac
Neve 33609
Pro Tools
Stereo Main Out Line In
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1 – 8 & 9-16 Fader Pack Insert Send & Return
The engineer and producer can monitor on two sets of speakers, main and near field, and switch between them using the Alt Speaker switch allowing comparisons of the mix on small and large speakers.
Headphones can also be connected if required.
The outputs of the recording unit (or the appropriate two tracks of the DAW) can be connected to the two track return so that the engineer can switch between monitoring the mix leaving the 8816 and the mix coming back from the recorder.
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Mastering
PC / Mac 1081
Pro Tools
Neve 33609
Stereo Main Output
Line In Insert Send & Return 1-8 & Sum & Difference mode 9-16
Connect the outputs of your DAT, CD player or two tracks of your DAW to inputs 1 and 2 on the 8816. Connect the master outputs of the 8816 to the inputs of the Workstation, CDR or DAT that you wish to record onto.
Connect the outputs of the recording device to the 2 track return of the 8816. The mix is now passing through the mix bus of the 8816.
A Neve 33609 compressor or a Neve 8803 EQ unit can be patched across the Insert Point allowing the whole mix to be compressed or EQ’d.
The Insert can be switched to Sum and Difference mode allowing the producer to process the centre sum/mono signal and the stereo/difference signal in different manners.
The width control can be used to reduce the stereo width, perhaps for a club remix, or to enhance it beyond standard stereo if the original mix is not wide enough.
The engineer and producer can monitor on two sets of speakers, and switch between them using the Alt Speaker switch allowing comparisons of the mastered mix on small and large speakers. Headphones can also be connected if required.
The monitor source select can be used to switch between monitoring the sound entering the 8816 on inputs 1 and 2, the sound leaving the 8816 on the mix bus and the sound as recorded on the CDR/DAT/Workstation via the 2 Track Return.
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Live Recording
Front Of House console
Main Out
Grp / Matrix Outputs
While the output for the main Front Of House console may be of a high standard, the mix created for the venue does not have the correct balance for the recording. The 8816 solves this problem.
The main mix outputs of the 8816 should be connected to a recording device such as a DAT or DAW running on a laptop Mac or PC. The output of the recording device should be connected to the 2 Track Return on the 8816.
DAT
2 Track
Headphones
Key elements such as the lead vocal can be connected directly to an input on the 8816 from a Direct Out on the FOH console. Other elements such as drums, keyboards, etc can be connected to the inputs of the 8816 either from the Group Outputs or from the Matrix Outputs of the FOH console depending on the type of FOH console being used.
A correct balance between the individual and pre-mixed sounds can be set up on the 8816 using the Channel level controls. The mix is now passing through the mix bus of the 8816.
The engineer can monitor the live recording on headphones and switch between monitoring the output of the 8816 and the 2 Track Return from the recorder for a confidence check on the recorded sound.
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