C.E. Niehoff & Co. C524 Troubleshooting Guides

C524 Alternator
Troubleshooting Guide
Hazard Defi nitions
These terms are used to bring attention to presence of hazards of various risk levels or to important information concerning product life.
Indicates presence of hazards that
CAUTION
will or can cause minor personal injury or property damage if ignored.
Indicates special instructions on
NOTICE
installation, operation or mainte­ nance that are important but not related to personal injury hazards.
Table of Contents
Section A: Wiring ...............................................................2
Section B: Basic Troubleshooting ......................................3
Section C: Advanced Troubleshooting .........................4 – 5
Battery Conditions
Until temperatures of electrical
NOTICE
• Maintenance or low maintenance battery: — Immediately after engine starts, system volts are lower than regulator setpoint with medium amps. — 3-5 Minutes into charge cycle, system volts are higher and amps are dropping. — 5-10 Minutes into charge cycle, system volts are at, or nearly at, regulator setpoint and amps are reduced to a minimum. — Low maintenance battery has same characteris­ tics with slightly longer recharge times.
• Maintenance-free battery: — Immediately after engine start, system volts are lower than regulator setpoint with low charging amps. — 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, volts and amps are still low. — 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase several tenths. Amps increase gradually, then quickly, to medium to high amps. — 20-35 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase to setpoint and amps decrease.
• High-cycle maintenance-free battery: — These batteries respond better than standard maintenance-free. Charge acceptance of these batteries may display characteristics similar to maintenance batteries.
Charge Volt and Amp Values
The volt and amp levels are a function of the battery state of charge. If batteries are in a state of discharge, as after ex­tended cranking time to start the engine, the system volts, when measured after the engine is started will be lower than the regulator setpoint and the system amps will be
high. This is a normal condition for the charging system. The measured values of system volts and amps will depend on the level of battery discharge. In other words, the greater the battery discharge level, the lower the system volts and higher the system amps will be. The volt and amp readings will change, system volts reading will increase up to regula­tor setpoint and the system amps will decrease to low level (depending on other loads) as the batteries recover and become fully charged.
Low Amps: A minimum or lowest charging system amp
value required to maintain battery state of charge, obtained when testing the charging system with a fully charged battery and no other loads applied. This value will vary with battery type.
Medium Amps: A system amps value which can cause
the battery temperature to rise above the adequate charging temperature within 4-8 hours of charge time. To prevent battery damage, the charge amps should be reduced when battery temperature rises. Check battery manufacturer’s recommendations for proper rates of charge amps.
High Amps: A system amps value which can cause the
battery temperature to rise above adequate charging temperature within 2-3 hours. To prevent battery dam­age, the charge amps should be reduced when the battery temperature rises. Check battery manufactur­er’s recommendations for proper rates of charge amps.
Battery Voltage: Steady-state voltage value as
measured with battery in open circuit with no battery load. This value relates to battery state of charge.
Charge Voltage: A voltage value obtained when the
charging system is operating. This value will be higher than battery voltage and must never exceed the regula­tor voltage setpoint.
B+ Voltage: A voltage value obtained when measuring
voltage at battery positive terminal or alternator B+ terminal.
Surface Charge: A higher than normal battery voltage
occurring when the battery is removed from a battery charger. The surface charge must be removed to deter­mine true battery voltage and state of charge.
Significant Magnetism: A change in the strength or
intensity of a magnetic field present in the alternator rotor shaft when the field coil is energized. The mag­netic field strength when the field coil is energized should feel stronger than when the field is not ener­gized.
Voltage Droop or Sag: A normal condition which
occurs when the load demand on the alternator is greater than rated alternator output at given rotor shaft RPM.
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Section A: Wiring Diagram
CEN C524 Alternator Description and Operation
C524 14 V (300 A) 3-phase alternator is externally energized and self-rectifying. All windings and current-conducting components are non-moving, so there are no brushes or slip rings to wear out.
After engine is running, regulator receives energize signal. Regulator monitors alternator rotation and provides field current only when it detects alternator shaft rotating at or above idle speed.
After regulator detects alternator rotation, it gradually applies field current, preventing an abrupt mechani­cal load on accessory drive system. The soft start may take up to 20 seconds.
A2-334 and A2-335 regulators used with some of these units are flat temperature compensated. A 15.5 V regulator setpoint is available for battery isolator applications. Both regulators have a P terminal to provide an optional AC voltage tap.
IGN terminal
Figure 1 — C524 Alternator/A2-334 Regulator Features
IGN terminal
Regulator receptacle
LED
P terminal
Figure 2 — A2-335 Remote-mounted Regulator Features
LED
P terminal
B+ terminal
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IGN
P
Not used
Figure 3 — C524 Alternator with Regulator
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