C.E. Niehoff & Co. C520 Troubleshooting Guides

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500 Series Troubleshooting Guide
for C520 Alternators
Hazard Defi nitions
These terms are used to bring attention to presence of hazards of various risk levels or to important information concerning product life.
Indicates presence of hazards that
CAUTION
will or can cause minor personal injury or property damage if ignored.
Indicates special instructions on
NOTICE
installation, operation or mainte­ nance that are important but not related to personal injury hazards.
Table of Contents
Section 1: Wiring .......................................................... 2
Section 2: CAN/J1939 Diagnostics ............................... 3
Section 3: Basic Troubleshooting ................................. 4
Section 4: Advanced Troubleshooting ....................... 5-6
Battery Conditions
NOTICE
system components stabilize, these conditions may be observed during cold start voltage tests.
• Maintenance or low maintenance battery: — Immediately after engine starts, system volts are lower than regulator setpoint with medium amps. — 3-5 Minutes into charge cycle, system volts are higher and amps are dropping. — 5-10 Minutes into charge cycle, system volts are at, or nearly at, regulator setpoint and amps are reduced to a minimum. — Low maintenance battery has same characteris­ tics with slightly longer recharge times.
• Maintenance-free battery: — Immediately after engine start, system volts are lower than regulator setpoint with low charging amps. — 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, volts and amps are still low. — 15-30 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase several tenths. Amps increase gradually, then quickly, to medium to high amps. — 20-35 minutes into charge cycle, volts increase to setpoint and amps decrease.
• High-cycle maintenance-free battery: — These batteries respond better than standard maintenance-free. Charge acceptance of these batteries may display characteristics similar to maintenance batteries.
Charge Volt and Amp Values
The volt and amp levels are a function of the battery state of charge. If batteries are in a state of discharge, as after extended cranking time to start the engine, the system volts, when measured after the engine is started will be
lower than the regulator setpoint and the system amps will be high. This is a normal condition for the charging system. The measured values of system volts and amps will depend on the level of battery discharge. In other words, the greater the battery discharge level, the lower the system volts and higher the system amps will be. The volt and amp readings will change, system volts reading will increase up to regulator setpoint and the system amps will decrease to low level (depending on other loads) as the batteries recover and become fully charged.
Low Amps: A minimum or lowest charging system
amp value required to maintain battery state of charge, obtained when testing the charging system with a fully charged battery and no other loads ap­plied. This value will vary with battery type.
Medium Amps: A system amps value which can
cause the battery temperature to rise above the ad­equate charging temperature within 4-8 hours of charge time. To prevent battery damage, the charge amps should be reduced when battery temperature rises. Check battery manufacturer’s recommenda­tions for proper rates of charge amps.
High Amps: A system amps value which can cause
the battery temperature to rise above adequate charg­ing temperature within 2-3 hours. To prevent battery damage, the charge amps should be reduced when the battery temperature rises. Check battery manu­facturer’s recommendations for proper rates of charge amps.
Battery Voltage: Steady-state voltage value as mea-
sured with battery in open circuit with no battery load. This value relates to battery state of charge.
Charge Voltage: A voltage value obtained when the
charging system is operating. This value will be high­er than battery voltage and must never exceed the regulator voltage setpoint.
B+ Voltage: A voltage value obtained when measur-
ing voltage at battery positive terminal or alternator B+ terminal.
Surface Charge: A higher than normal battery volt-
age occurring when the battery is removed from a battery charger. The surface charge must be removed to determine true battery voltage and state of charge.
Significant Magnetism: A change in the strength or
intensity of a magnetic field present in the alternator rotor shaft when the field coil is energized. The mag­netic field strength when the field coil is energized should feel stronger than when the field is not ener­gized.
Voltage Droop or Sag: A normal condition which
occurs when the load demand on the alternator is greater than rated alternator output at given rotor shaft RPM.
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Section 1: Wiring Diagram
CEN C520 Alternator Description and Operation
C520 14 V 300 A 3-phase alternator is internally rectified. All windings and current-conducting compo­nents are non-moving, so there are no brushes or slip rings to wear out.
After engine is running, regulator receives energize signal. Regulator monitors alternator rotation and provides field current only when it detects alternator shaft rotating at or above idle speed.
After regulator detects alternator rotation, it gradually applies field current, preventing an abrupt mechani­cal load on accessory drive system. The soft start may take up to 20 seconds.
A2-215 regulator used with some of these units is flat temperature compensated. A 15.5 V regulator setpoint is available for battery isolator applications.
A2-326 regulator used with some of these units in­cludes measurement of battery current, voltage, and temperature for adjustment of regulator setpoint.
IGN terminal
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Figure 1 — C520 Alternator/A2-215 Regulator Features
J1939 receptacle
Regulator receptacle
IGN terminal
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T
T
B– terminal
T
T
T
LED
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B+ terminal
LED
Figure 2 — A2-326 Remote-Mounted Regulator Features
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Figure 3 — C520 Alternator with Regulator
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Section 2: CAN/J1939 Diagnostics
CAN/J1939 Interface
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
The CEN A2-326 digital regulator is compatible with SAE J1939 communications standard for vehicle net­working.
CEN uses MIL-STD connector MS3112E12-10P to inter­face between the A2-326 and the vehicle J1939 databus. Mating connector is MS3116E12-10S or equivalent. If J1939 connection is not used, the 10-pin connector must be covered with connector cover MS3181-12CA or equivalent. Message content is shown in Table 2.
TABLE 2 – A2-326 Regulator/J1939 Readout Diagnostics (see Table 3)
Regulator Readout
Alternator Output Voltage 28 V System
Alternator Speed
Regulator Temperature
Alternator Output
Charging System Hours
Expected Reading
13–15 V
1200 to 8000 RPM
Less than 257 F/125ºC
0–100%
>0 hours
TABLE 1 – J1939 Connector
Circuit Identifi cation
Pin
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
H
J
K
Identifi cation
CANH
CANL
CAN SHIELD
Battery
Mfr use only
Mfr use only
Mfr use only
Temperature sensor
Voltage sensor
Current sensor
Figure 4 – J1939
Connector Pins
Action—If Expected Reading Not Present
See Chart 1, page 6.
Check drive belt and charging system connections.
Decrease load on alternator.
Varies with load.
Check drive belt and charging system connections.
TABLE 3 – Message Data
PGN Name PGN Byte 1 Byte 2 Byte 3 Byte 4 Byte 5 Byte 6 Byte 7 Byte 8
ALT RPM
ALT VOLT
ALT TEMP
PROPRIETARY #1
PROPRIETARY #2
0xFED5 ALT RPM
0xFEF7 VOLT SETPOINT ALT VOLT REG IGN VOLT BATT VOLT
0xFEA7 REG TEMP BATT TEMP
0xFFC8 BATT
CURRENT
0xFFC9 Proprietary Content: For Manufacturer Test Only
SHUTDOWN
COUNT
BATT AGE HOUR METER MINUTES
(0-59)
ALT LOAD
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Section 3: Basic Troubleshooting
A. Tools and Equipment for Job
• Digital Multimeter (DMM)
• Ammeter (digital, inductive)
• Jumper wires
If no tools are available, monitor LED code.
B. Identifi cation Record
List the following for proper troubleshooting:
Alternator model number ______________________
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Regulator model number ______________________
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TABLE 4 – System Conditions
SYMPTOM
Low Voltage Output
High Voltage Output
No Voltage Output
Check: loose drive belt; low bat-
tery state of charge.
Check: current load on system
is greater than alternator can produce.
Check: defective wiring or poor
ground path.
Check: defective alternator
and/or regulator. Check: defective regulator. Check: alternator. Check: presence of energize sig-
nal to IGN terminal on regula-
tor. Check: battery voltage at alter-
nator output terminal. Check: defective alternator
and/or regulator.
ACTION
C. Basic Troubleshooting
1. Inspect charging system components
Check connections at ground cables, positive cables, and regulator harness. Repair or replace any damaged component before troubleshooting.
2. Inspect connections of vehicle batteries
Connections must be clean and tight.
3. Determine battery type, voltage, and state
of charge Batteries must be all the same type for system
operation. If batteries are discharged, recharge or replace batteries as necessary. Electrical system cannot be properly tested unless batter­ ies are charged 95% or higher. See page 1 for details.
4. Connect meters to alternator Connect red lead of DMM to alternator B+ terminal and black lead to alternator B– terminal. Clamp inductive ammeter on B+ cable.
5. Operate vehicle
Observe charge voltage. If charge voltage is above
33 volts, immediately shut down system. Electrical system damage may occur if charging system is allowed to operate at excessive voltage. Go to Table 4 at left.
If voltage is at or below regulator setpoint, let
charging system operate for several minutes to normalize operating temperature.
6. Observe charge volts and amps Charge voltage should increase and charge amps should decrease. If charge voltage does not in- crease within ten minutes, continue to next step.
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7. Batteries are considered fully charged if charge voltage is at regulator setpoint and charge amps remain at lowest value for 10 minutes.
8. If charging system is not performing properly, go to Chart 1, page 6.
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Section 4: Advanced Troubleshooting
A2-215 and A2-326 Regulators
DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
A2-215 regulator is attached directly to the outside of
the alternator. A2-326 regulator is remotely mounted from extended wiring harnesses.
Main diagnostic feature of A2-215 regulator is green lens LED. The LED indicates field coil performance. See Table 5 for diagnostic features and LED explana­tions.
Main diagnostic feature of A2-326 regulator consists of a tricolored (green, amber, red) LED located on the side of the regulator. The LED works like a voltmeter, measuring charging voltage. See Table 6 for diagnostic features and LED explanations.
TABLE 5 – A2-215 Regulator Diagnostics
LED CONDITION
GREEN On steady
GREEN Flashing
CLEAR LED off
Field on full.
Speed of LED flashing determines alternator
output.
Field off.
STATUS
TROUBLESHOOTING A2-326 REGULATOR
Shut down vehicle and restart engine. If alternator functions normally after restart, a “no output condi­tion” was normal response of voltage regulator to overvoltage condition. Inspect condition of electrical system.
If you have reset alternator once, and electrical system returns to normal charge voltage condition, there may have been a one time, overvoltage spike that caused OVCO circuit to trip.
If OVCO circuit repeats cutout a second time in short succession and shuts off alternator F+ circuit, try third restart. If OVCO circuit repeats cutout a third time, check color of LED while engine is running.
ACTION
No action required.
Check drive belt, moderate RPM if necessary.
Check condition of field circuit.
LED COLOR
GREEN Flashing*
AMBER Flashing *
RED Flashing*
Steady
CLEAR LED off
Alternator and regulator operating normally.
Energize signal present, alternator not rotat-
If alternator is rotating: System voltage lower
System voltage higher than setpoint.
OVCO tripped.
Energize circuit fault.
* Flashing occurs twice per second.
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TABLE 6 – A2-326 Regulator Diagnostics
STATUS
ing or alternator speed too low for cut-in.
than setpoint – electrical load exceeds alter­nator rating at present rotor speed.
ACTION
No action required.
Check drive belt, increase RPM.
When loads decrease or speed increases, LED
should flash GREEN. If not, check drive belt and charging system connections.
May occur during normal load switching.
Overvoltage condition. Attempt reset. System diag-
nosis required.
Check for system voltage at IGN terminal on
regulator. If OK, replace regulator. If not OK, check vehicle wiring and ignition circuit.
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Section 4: Advanced Troubleshooting
(CONT’D)
Chart 1 – No Alternator Output – Quick Diagnostic
Remote-mounted regulator applications: Check condition of fuse in wiring harness
before troubleshooting.
With engine running: Does battery voltage exist at alternator B+ terminal and regulator E terminal?
Yes
Repair vehicle harness circuit to E terminal on regulator or B+ terminal on alternator.
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With key off, engine off: Does battery voltage exist at alternator B+ terminal?
Yes
Repair vehicle harness circuit to B+ terminal on alterna­tor.
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With key off, engine off: Unplug alternator-to-regulator harness. Connect DMM on DC volt scale across pins A and D, and then across pins C and E in harness plug. Does battery voltage exist for both pairs?
Yes
Alternator is defective.
T
With DMM on resistance scale, does the field resistance between pin F in harness plug and alterna­torB– terminal measure about 1.6 (±0.2) ohms?
Yes
Alternator is defective.
T
Set DMM to diode test.
Check negative diodes: Connect red lead to pin B in harness plug. Connect black lead to alternator B– termi­nal. Meter should read OL (over limit). Reverse leads. Meter should read voltage drop.
Check positive diodes: Connect red lead to pin B in harness plug. Connect black lead to alternator B+ termi­nal. Meter should read voltage drop. Reverse leads. Meter should read OL (over limit).
Yes
Alternator is defective.
T
Momentarily (1 sec.) jumper pin F in harness plug to alterna­tor B+ terminal. Touch shaft with steel tool to detect significant magnetism. Is shaft magnetized?
Yes
T
Regulator is defective.
Alternator is defective.
No
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No
T
No
T
No
T
No
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No
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PIN CONNECTIONS
Pin A GND/B– Pin B AC Pin C GND/B– Pin D B+ Pin E B+ Pin F F+
Figure 5 – Alternator-to-Regulator Harness Plug
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Notes
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Notes
If you have questions about your alternator or any of these test procedures, or if you need to locate a Factory Authorized Service Distributor, please contact us at:
TEL: 800.643.4633 USA and Canada • TEL: 847.866.6030 outside USA and Canada • FAX: 847.492.1242
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C. E. Niehoff & Co.• 2021 Lee Street • Evanston, IL 60202 USA
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